ESIP Testbed Session Notes to post
* Portal presentation: mention that roles also includes "public" in addition to member and developer
* ESIP Services
* Testbed as collaborative portal
* Issues with ESIP group acct for Amazon
* pre-paid acct to limit exposure
* JPL has corporate account
* There are problems with freezing Amazon instance. Some people did not have very pleasant experience with freezing.
* If you are using 80% of your machine time, you should own the machine - JPL NASA study.
* Main problem is to have a common ESIP Amazon account. Amazon does not allow consolidated billing and requires you to put personal credit card number. There may be alternatives.
* What about Terabytes of data usages, what about its cost? Current Amazon cost is around $100 per months for few projects.
* Having a collaborative development environment is main problem. Sysadmin needs to open ports for other institutions. This is the why Testbed could not be hosted on local university machines.
* Owning a private cloud is expensive for ESIP at this moment, but hosting a private cloud for ESIP may be cheaper in longer terms.
* Frank: where is it practical to use cloud resources and/or purchase an ESIP server
* James: use AWS to manage VM images instead of considering using gitHub to manage VMs
* might be a student project to figure out how to manage AWS resources as an ESIP entity
* Eric - how to manage budgeting/billing of cloud (and other) resources?
* Reasons for using cloud resources
* resources that are not secured or blocked - or require sysadmin efforts
* hosting data? we haven't had any experience with using AWS to host data yet
* Consider using the Testbed portal (or some tool) to track progress/status of projects and services. Had not considered tracking status of services
* ESIP is evaluating Pantheon vs. Bluehost vs. Amazon Cloud pros and cons. Develop on Pantheon and move to Bluehost later etc.
* Open Discussion
* Christine: sugest doing a plenary presentation at the winter meeting that will explain and advocate the Testbed, Commons, ESIP Portal, services, etc. - assuming that some of these things have gelled by the winter meeting
* Frank: Consider asking representatives from some other projects that provide user services to talk at one of the monthly telecons
* project columbia - examples of how to allocate resources
* others that I did not capture
* Suggestion for better outreach: Once Testbed has a better process, in next winter meeting it can be shown during plenary sessions.
* Question: How to host server side applications on Testbed that requires separate post and have lots of data?