September 2014 Documentation Cluster Telecon

Abstract/Agenda: 
Notes: 

§  Esip winter session ideas like metadata compliance tools

  • Ed – metadata evaluation/improvement – check for consistencies, are their tools
    • Anna agrees
  • Anna – NOAA EDM – metadata tools - forward to Documentation list (https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B3ITNk7dilPiWUpLc2JfZjI0M1U&usp=sharing#)
  • Sessions due Oct 10
  • ACTION – Ed will submit session to Commons
  • NetCDF4 tools (John Graybeal) – issue with conversion between 3 and 4 problem with lack of tools
  • How to get the community to transition
  • ? more discussion of adoption of evolution of standard – might have the same issue with ISO 19115-1 – same kind of problem (Anna)
  • ACTION – Kelly create session - Applications of data models to changing technology

§  Prepare the summary issues for ACDD (John Graybeal)

  • Anna sent out a link to the wiki with ACDD 2.0 (past called 1.2? or 1.3?) - http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Attribute_Convention_for_Data_Discovery_2.0
    • Imported 1.2 working document and cleaned up text – removed mapping to THREDDS and ISO – mapping can be in a separate place (Ted might be working on this)
    • Cleaned links (were linking to unidata still
    • Things in RED are she is unclear and we can discuss
    • Phil Jones – have various versions on the website – need to set a review period… lots of confusion of what versions are current/up for review
      • Thought it was 1.2.3 … which has been renamed… he been on 1.2.3. for 6 month – it has been largely stable (John)
      • When we put together final form THEN got a list of new comments
      • New comments – are about 10 comments + red in Anna’s document =  about 20 issues – been using “talk” page
        • Talk page is difficult to follow – Anna suggest spreadsheet
      • Ajay – is there going to be version control UUDC checker – metric based on global attributes in NetCDF – uses version 1.0 – there needs to be a mapping
      • There are no tools yet – that is the next step
      • Heather (NCDC) – need more stable version – Anna – not converting right now, we are trying to figure out what the version will contain
      • Phil – which version should we be using – use 1.1 (also have 1.0)
    • Kelly – but 2.0 was what was refered to as the object oriented version – had been talking about this for months
    • So – ACDD current version under review will be called 1.3…
    • Propose an ACDD adjudication – 2 weeks for online discussion – then Oct 2 2pm EDT
  • Red (Anna)
  • blank space separated is recommended but commas should be used if any convention name contains blanks. – should only use one option
  • Not sure if slash should be in IDs, links to ISO 8601
  • If a bounding box is for a cube – how do you know it is a cube or a bounding box… - need to be re-written as part of a 2 or 3 dimensional region
  • Format is not prescribed. – should recommend that it should be a decimal (Because of translation to ISO… but some examples include units) – Need to go back to that one
  • or in a structured format compatible with conversion to ncML (e.g., insensitive to whitespace). – if you are going to use a structured format that some conversions will not convert because of blank space – need to explain better or point to other documentation where that is described
  •  "CF:NetCDF COARDS Climate and Forecast Standard Names" – if this is the format then we need to describe this in the keywords – this is a discussion topic
  • ACTION – Anna and John will talk about and then will send out an update including a spreadsheet
  • Send to documentation cluster – question of other lists - ? CF & ESIP-all – just advertise
  • Problem with how THREDDS uses ACDD
  • Emails Bob Simmons questions/comments

§  Concern deprecation always being a bad idea – no hard requirement – it is all recommendations

NEXT Oct 16

Actions: 

Anna and John will talk about and then will send out an update including a spreadsheet

Ed will submit session to Commons for Winter meeting about  metadata evaluation and improvements

Kelly will submit seession to Commons for Winter meeting about adopting new standards formats

Citation:
Armstrong, E.; September 2014 Documentation Cluster Telecon; Telecon Minutes. ESIP Commons , August 2014